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"A lot of aspiring writers
have
potential, but the
real question is
how many of them have that
extra something, such as
Harry Potter creator J K
Rowling?."
- Darley Anderson





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An interview
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Darley Anderson
With best selling authors such as
Lee Child, Martina Cole, John Connolly, Leslie Pearse, Sheila
Quigley and Alex Barclay on the books, you can understand why Darley
Anderson Literary Agency is a prime target for aspiring novelists
worldwide. Founded in 1988, the agency has a reputation for
discovering new talent and turning that talent into big-time money.
Always on the look out for new authors, the man behind this strictly
not-for-profit firm, takes a little time out from his gruelling
schedule of book launches, publishing pitches and literary lunches
to talk about the business of taking care of business.
Hello, Darley. Firstly can you tell
me in one sentence how you would describe the Darley Anderson
Literary Agency? Yes. We’re very focussed, very successful, 100%
commercial, friendly and—unlike some agencies—not literary snobs.
Our slogan is: Our authors mean business.
The publishing world is constantly
changing and adapting. Can you tell us something about what you feel
has been the high points and the low points over the past twenty
years or so? Well, there have been several key moments—or
periods—that are especially significant.
Firstly, publishing started to
change in the 1980s when independent owner/publishers (such as
William Heinemann and Secker & Warburg) became divisions of the
conglomerates. I was in the business before this happened, and it’s
like BC and AD. Today, most young people in the publishing industry
have no knowledge or understanding of the “pre-conglomerate” days.
But what has happened is that the individuality of the independent
owners has gone. Modern publishing and personalities are almost a
contradiction in terms.
We’re in a much more corporate age.
That was the major change. Then there was the abolition of the net
book agreement; i.e. the retail price agreement. That occurred back
in mid-1990s and has led inexorably to the increasing dominance of
the large retailer over the publisher. Increasingly, the retailers
call the shots, and publishers have been sucked into this new order.
And it’s very profitable for the
shops because the publishers take all the risk and pay for
everything. They vie constantly for sales slots and shelf
space—which, for example, is around £25,000 for a WHSmith Book of
the Week promotion. I don’t see that changing.
On the other hand, the marketing of
books has become much better. It’s unquestionably more professional
and dynamic, and the retailers have played a positive part in this.
So it’s not all bad.
It’s said that everyone has at
least one novel in them. With that in mind, what percentage of
manuscripts received at your agency have, in your opinion, any
realistic prospect of seeing a printing press outside of a vanity
publishing house? Well, we get approximately 1200 proposals a
months, which is more than most agencies. If you take 1200 and
multiple that by 12, you end up with 14,400 submissions. I
personally might take on just 2 writers a year. The agency at large
might take on around 5. And of the two I accept, the big question
is; Are they going to be around and successful in 10 years? When I
take on a writer, it isn’t simply because I like them and their
work. I have to take a 10 year view. I’m interested in their long
term careers. A lot of aspiring writers have potential, but the real
question is how many of them have that extra something, such as
Harry Potter creator J K Rowling? There are more hopeful writers
today than ever before. Many of them are simply dreamers. But there
are many good writers too with a future. And there are also many
agents and editors trying very hard to find that new talent. Good
writing isn’t enough. You have to have a great story. If you
haven’t, then readers have a huge number of alternative books out
there to choose from. First novels that get a plug on shows like
Richard and Judy usually sell a lot of copies. But the R & J effect
soon diminishes. Building a career where all your books are
successful is much harder and takes longer.
Can you tell us what is the most
common mistake would-be novelists make—and, if possible, what
remedies you might suggest to deal with it? The commonest error
is that when authors write a novel, they don’t give sufficient
thought to the market place. They tend to finish their manuscript
and send off the first draft. I understand why they do it. They’re
often desperate. But they should never send off their first draft.
It almost always needs reworking before sending. That’s the real
difference between the amateur and professional. It’s being aware of
the market that you’re writing for and structuring your story to
suit and developing the quality of the novel by writing a number of
drafts.
Is there such a thing as
literary agent “burn out”? And if so, how is it that you’re still at
the top of your game after 20 years? Well, I personally love the
industry and have never felt my enthusiasm waning, so I can’t speak
of “burn out” from direct experience. One of the people I take
inspiration from is Manchester United football club manager, Alex
Fergusson, who’s still at the top of his game after so many years.
To be a successful literary agent, you must love books and doing
deals. I’m interested in great story telling, and interested in
authors whose books will sell a lot of copies and will give a lot of
pleasure to readers. For my part, I get a good commission and the
satisfaction of working with such authors to build careers. I love
it.
Outside of your own agency,
would you care to comment on who you feel are the top two literary
agencies in the business, and why? Pass.
You’re often credited as being a
good talent spotter. If it isn’t too cynical a question, does there
come a point when an agent, or for that matter an editor or
publisher, can turn almost any writer into the next big thing simply
by force of reputation? No. Absolutely not. About two and half
years ago I took on Lee Weeks, a new unknown female crime novelist.
I worked with her on her first manuscript, a serial-killer book set
in Hong Kong entitled: The Trophy Taker. It was gripping and
thrilling. A commercial page turner. I sent it out to all the major
publishers, and they all turned it down flat. So much for my
reputation and judgment. I had to scrabble around for a publisher
for Lee, and finally got a deal with a start-up imprint – Avon,
which is part of Harper Collins. The book has since been really
successful and the paperback got to number 30 on the top 50
bestseller lists. And her next one The Trafficked will do even
better.
Are there any successful books
that you’ve turned down that you now wish you hadn’t? And if so, can
you recall the reason why you declined representation? No,
nothing springs to mind.
It’s said that literary agents
sometimes decide on the merits of a novel within the first few
paragraphs. Is this true with respect to your own literary antenna?
Or you do occasionally, or even often, wrestle with a manuscript
before committing yourself one way or the other? You can
certainly get a good clue to the worth of a novel even from the
submissions letter. And sometimes you start reading a manuscript and
you think “mmmm”. That doesn’t necessarily mean that the writer will
sustain your interest, however. And I usually discover that pretty
quickly. Other times, it takes a little longer to form a conclusion.
For better or worse, literary
agents are, it seems, here to stay. But in your opinion, have agents
really helped and expanded the publishing market? Or have they—by
following well trodden formulas—merely helped funnel would-be
original thinking authors into convenient marketing genres to the
detriment of real talent? Well, there are a great number of
literary agents out there that cover the whole spectrum of the book
industry which is generally profitable—except perhaps for areas such
as religion, poetry and academia. Everything else is well covered,
with agents who specialise in celebrity books, or popular culture,
or popular fiction. The only really strict formula for publishing is
in the romance category. The commercial sector, however, thinks in
terms of genre, which isn’t the same as formula. When I first
started, publishers were more rigid about genre than today. I think
there is more flexibility for new ideas and styles and original
thinking.
Would it be kinder for a
literary agent to simply tell a hopeless writer that he or she is
hopeless? Or do you believe that anyone can make it to the top, or
at least get on the ladder of success? No, I don’t think
everyone can get published. It’s a tough industry, and to get to the
top requires a very special person. As I said, only a few have that
extra something. It’s the same in any industry. Even getting
published in a small way requires a lot of talent and perseverance.
Most people simply don’t have either.
Has television influenced the
way modern novels are constructed? And if so, has it been a good or
bad thing? Television has had a definite influence, but I’m not
sure that many book authors have understood this. Because of TV, the
modern novel has to have more pace and dramatic incident. Soaps
operas, for instance, seem almost to have a melodramatic incident
every 30 seconds or so, whereas many modern novelists—notably
British novelists—still go 20 pages without anything dramatic
happening. Of course, characters still have to be deep and
challenging. But pace is essential. There once was a view was that
TV was going to kill books. But it hasn’t happened. TV has simply
helped to change what the novel has to do as far as pace is
concerned. It’s worth writers keeping this in mind.
Is it true that a great story,
well-told (within reasonable subjective criteria) will eventually
find a publisher? Or is it instead a hard fact that there will
always be wonderful manuscripts destined to rot in the bottom draw?
I feel that very good modern writers are more likely than ever
to find a publisher—as long as they have perseverance. If you give
up easily, your writing career will falter. Lee Child is one of my
most successful writers, and from the start he worked out what would
work commercially and structured his writing to take advantage of
that. He’s both pacy and a story teller; the important qualities for
a commercial writer. Literary agents and editors can help
technically.
But story telling is everything. If
I gave Martina Cole, another of my mega-selling authors, a piece of
paper and a pen, she could write the outlines for 5 novels in almost
as many minutes. I certainly couldn’t do that. Martina,
incidentally, left school at just 14. She’s currently the number one
hardback adult fiction writer in the UK. The only person who’s
challenging her is Terry Pratchett.
Having said that a great story on
its own is not enough to guarantee commercial success. Writers need
to create great characters above all. Think James Bond, Harry Potter
and all the great characters in Shakespeare and Dickens et al.
Given that writing novels is
such hard work, and often very lonely work, what do you feel is the
appeal for so many would-be authors—aside from the unlikely prospect
of striking it rich? Some people just have a need in them to
write, or tell stories. It’s always been that way. Lesley Pearse,
one of my very successful authors, writes big epic sagas. If you
told Lesley that the publishing business is closing down, she’s
certainly not going to starve. But she would find it difficult to
live without writing. It’s a need. A passion. Catherine Cookson was
still writing into her seventies and eighties even when she was a
sick woman. She had no interest then in the money she was making,
but she simply couldn’t not write. Others see writing as the way out
of their dull jobs or professions. We see this a lot in submissions.
Writing is hard. Life is short.
Postage is expensive. With this in mind, is it still reasonable that
many literary agencies, such as your own, still refuse to accept
email submissions? And if so, why? You’re really asking the
wrong guy here. I’m simply not very technically minded, so I’m not
experienced in downloading manuscripts from emails and personally
forwarding them on to our agency readers. Instead, we tend to ask
for hard copy. Things might change now that a new generation of
readers is coming on the market. It’s going to be increasingly part
of the reading experience. But print books will continue, I’m sure
of that.
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